MTL - Big Time 1958-Chapter 965 see you late
The scene was very polite, and the two did not deliberately create a friendly atmosphere, nor did they show hostility. Afterwards, they entered the Hofdy Building at the same time, and accompanied by an interpreter, they began a meeting of the two. The conversation included a series of issues centered on medium-range missiles.
"Mr. Sheloff!" Reagan said with a confident smile, "I'll tell you a joke. One day, Gorbachev suspected that the driver was driving slowly, grabbed the steering wheel, and rampaged at full speed. Pedestrians asked the traffic police: Why didn't they stop him. The policeman said: I dare not, his officer is too big! Pedestrian: How big? The policeman whispered: Gorbachev drove for him."
I thought that the other party was angry or had a surprised expression, but after all, there must be some reaction, right? But? No! Serov raised his head slightly and looked at Regan, his expression and eyes seemed to say, "Are you an idiot?"
"Talking about problems is talking about problems. The rumors that appeared in the Soviet Union coincided with the date when you became the president of the United States. As a person who is also chairman of the KGB, do you think I don't know where the source came from?" Shelov sneered at Reagan. Dao, "I don't care if I just don't want to delay some people in China making money, it's not easy to support my family."
Of course, there are also some rumors, which were released by the KGB themselves, which the big spy chief will not say.
In fact, with this part of the funds allocated by the United States, the KGB’s Internal Defense Spy Bureau also participated in the division of stolen goods. It is not too difficult to find those who spread rumors and collect part of the illegal income. It can only be said that in terms of spreading rumors, Reagan was just an appropriator, while Serov personally organized the process in this regard, and his professionalism was much higher than that of Reagan.
"Mellon blew the whistle, Reagan rang the bell. Wall Street sent a signal, and the United States rushed to hell!" Serov changed the slogan of the Great Depression in the United States and sent it back directly to Reagan. The first dialogue between the two showed a very rare atmosphere of conversation, and there was more than half a sentence without speculation...
Originally, the communication between the two required translation, but Serov knew English, so he skipped this link and had a direct face-to-face conversation with Reagan. Reagan also countered without hesitation, "General Secretary, the advantage you are referring to is not your Soviet Union's. Unpaid labor gulag?"
"From the perspective of the country, some people cannot be saved. This is what I hate most about you Americans. It is clear that the domestic homicide rate is so high, but for the sake of arms, the weapons are never controlled. I'm ashamed to say that this is the United States. The basic rights of people to protect themselves, how old is this? You can kill an army composed of tanks and aircraft carriers with a gun? It’s a joke! How shameless is your country if you can’t bear to let go of such a domestic interest?” Serov did not hide the ancient The fact that Lager has been resurrected from the Soviet Union, he thinks this is very good, should he still build villas for criminals and raise them like grandpas?
"That's why you turned the Soviet Union into a police state?" Reagan also avoided the issue of guns in the United States, and took himself as an example, "I was assassinated myself, but I know that it is not weapons but people who kill people. Weapons are not as good as dismantling the hatred in people's hearts..."
"That should be achievable in a communist society, the United States is absolutely unreachable, the United States is the highest stage of capitalism, an imperialist country." Serov directly bluntly said, "It is impossible for American society to go further, you can't ban Guns, if you can't do it, you can't do it, don't look for other reasons..."
"However, is it your way to suppress resistance with powerful police force and make society stable? If the people's mood is not released, it will be like a volcanic eruption, destroying everything." Reagan smiled, "You can maintain How long is the high pressure state? Can it go on forever?"
"If you want to talk about the police state, it should be your United States of America. I wonder how a country that can kill people who don't obey orders at any time can solve its own problems and accuse another country of being a police state?" Serov said. With a puzzled look, he asked, "In addition to the United States, is there another country like this? Or is it like a dream of American resources, the United States is the only one? Other countries do not have this kind of right, the police in the United States must have?"
At the same time, the American secret service personnel and the Soviet security personnel behind the two people looked ahead, and the American secret service personnel kept thinking in their hearts, is the hostility between the leaders of the two countries so obvious? And because the conversation was in English, they could understand it. On some issues, it seemed that the general secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union also made some sense.
As for the security personnel of the Soviet Union, they are completely in the state of sculpture. First of all, they can't understand what they are saying. Even if some people understand English, they will not talk too much. Their duty is to stand here, not to act. something else.
It may be because the two people have long admired each other for a long time, so they met each other very late when they first met, and they really wanted to learn from their opponents who have always caused a lot of trouble for themselves, so from the first sentence, Sheloff The dialogue between Reagan and Reagan continued, and it was serious business to blame each other and each other's country, each other's thinking, each other's system, and everything about the other party. …
"A healthy society should be measured by the value created by labor itself, not by some means created by mathematical games, to create some prosperity that looks good." Sheloff said to Regan rudely.
"The law of the market economy exists, and the development of the financial industry can better mobilize the free economy. The life of the Soviets living in a dull state is itself disintegrating creativity." Reagan retorted indifferently.
"In terms of creativity, capitalists focus on creating many means of covert exploitation. The creativity of socialism is to face the society more fairly. Considering the number of audiences, even if there are some shortcomings, it can be more lethal. More people use this creativity." Serov went on to elaborate on the advantages of the Soviet Union.
The socialist market economy operates under the conditions of public ownership as the main body and the common development of various types of ownership economies. The distribution of personal income in the socialist market economy is mainly based on labor distribution, and the goal is to achieve common prosperity. The socialist market economy takes public ownership as the main body, which determines that the distribution of the whole society is based on the basic form of distribution according to work.
"Our country is very fair. Even if it is an arms race, the pressure of the Soviet Union is equally distributed to everyone. If the United States does this, it is estimated that the bottom group will live like a human immediately." Reagan had to retort and continued, "Of course, with the natural conditions in the United States, people who don't live like people will not necessarily starve to death, not to mention that there are so many illegal immigrants in your country. Even less human..."
Cough! Seeing that the two of them were going to continue, the assistants brought by Reagan couldn't stand it any longer. This state of seeing each other late has been going on for a while. Judging from the enthusiasm, it is estimated that the two of them could continue to chat for a whole day. go down. The two leaders who are talking about serious business must be reminded that they should talk about small things, such as the strategic defense system, and the intermediate-range missile treaty.
"There is also the Libyan hostage crisis!" Serov reminded from the side with a teasing face. It is also very interesting to look at Reagan's stinky face. The hostage crisis is not over yet! Don't think it's over...
When these words came out, Reagan was obviously a lot more serious. Compared with the status of Serov, a big spy chief in the Soviet Union, Reagan, who is still troubled by the Libyan hostage incident, obviously has to worry more. He also hopes to end this matter as soon as possible, but?
It depends on what the Soviets think. After all, one of the important parties involved is the Soviet Union behind Libya.
Remembering that he was already the President of the United States, and not just an actor who only cared about the scene, Reagan had to withdraw from this state of seeing each other late. It seemed that he wanted to suppress Serov from language, basically Impossible.
It took a little time to return to his true identity, Reagan turned back into the confident and humorous American president, but in Shelov's eyes, he was still the actor. It is a pity to end this friendly and in-depth exchange, and now I have to face the boring formal negotiation!
The United States and the Soviet Union have their own interests, and among them is the pressure of European countries on the two countries. Under such pressure, even if neither of them is willing, they must give other countries an explanation. The Soviet Union had a slightly less political challenge in its own camp, but had to respect the opinions of these countries. As for a group of old-fashioned imperialists within the US camp, it is actually quite troublesome.
"On the Libyan issue, what I mean is that Gaddafi must release all the kidnapped American hostages, and at the same time take full responsibility for the American hostages who were killed, and give compensation." Reagan said without concealment, "Otherwise the lessons will come one after another until the mad dog compromises."
"The United States wants to use war to solve the problem, and I will not oppose it at all. Anyway, Egypt, Iraq and Syria have expressed their determination to support Libya. I also think that the United States still has the ability to fight across oceans. In that case , then what are you waiting for?" Shelov suggested with a relaxed expression, "I think the landing of 200,000 US troops will solve the problem, and the United States will never fall into the quagmire of the Vietnam War again. I suggest that President Reagan can try it now."
"The Soviet Union doesn't seem sincere!" Reagan frowned and looked at Serov and said, "Openly supports a country that takes hostages?"
